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Dave Says
The Numbers Don’t Lie
By
Daris Howard
Don’t Cash Out Retirement
Dear Dave,
Why do you think all debt is bad? Dear Dave,
Aren’t some kinds of debt, like a
I owe $18,000 on my only car, and the payments are killing me.
mortgage or student loans, good?
I’m also upside down on the vehicle by about $4,000. I’m 31, and
Nathan
I’ve got exactly $18,000 in my 401(k). Should I cash it in to pay off
the car?
Dear Nathan,
Monty
It sounds like you’re letting me
know you think some kinds of debt
Dear Monty,
are okay, instead of really asking
If you use your 401(k) they’ll charge you a 10 percent penalty,
for my opinion. When you ask a
plus your tax rate. That means you’ll probably lose anywhere
question that’s really a statement,
from 25 to 50 percent to the government. I don’t know about you,
it’s called a passive aggressive ques- but I think they already get too much of our money.
tion. That’s okay. You and I will now
I love the fact that you want to get rid of your car payment, but
argue as best we can in a newspaper I don’t want you to cash out your retirement plan to make it hapDave
column.
pen. If you can pay off the car in 18 months or less, I’d advise living
It’s not necessarily a question of what I on a strict, written budget, and throwing as money as possible
think. I’m really just the aggregator of
toward the car debt until it’s out of your life forever.
information we’ve gathered while walking with people through
If it would take longer than 18 months to pay it off, I’d get rid of
their financial issues. I’ve worked with tens of thousands of
the car. To do this, you’d have to sell it for as much as you can get,
folks over nearly 30 years, everyone from billionaires and milthen go to a local credit union for a small loan to cover the differlionaires to broke people, and those in between. In the process, ence. If it’s your only car, you’d need to ask for an extra $2,000 to
$3,000 to buy a little beater to drive until you can save up and get
we’ve collected a lot of data through formal research projects
into something better.
— I’m talking about a huge stockpile of statistics, facts, and
I hate all kinds of debt, Monty. But being $5,000 to $6,000 in the
figures. And all that data shows debt is the biggest roadblock
hole is a lot better than having $18,000 in debt hanging over your
between people and wealth. I’m also a Christian. Having read
head!
the bible, and what it says about money, I can tell you there’s
— Dave
not one place where it says debt is a good idea.
So, all that information leads me to one conclusion. Debt is
not a positive thing. The only kind of debt I don’t beat people
up over is mortgage debt, as long as it’s a 15-year, fixed rate
* Dave Ramsey is America’s trusted voice on money and busiloan. Houses are wildly expensive, and I understand that most
ness, and CEO of Ramsey Solutions. He has authored seven bestpeople can’t save up to buy a home with cash in a reasonable
selling books, including The Total Money Makeover. The Dave
amount of time. Still, that doesn’t make mortgage debt a good
Ramsey Show is heard by more than 12 million listeners each
thing.
Any kind of debt is a burden, Nathan. It steals from your
week on 575 radio stations and multiple digital platforms. Follow
ability to save, build wealth, and be generous.
Dave on Twitter at @DaveRamsey and on the web at daveram— Dave
sey.com.
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