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Dave Says
Roommate Agreement
With Family?
BY DAVE RAMSEY
Dear Dave,
My husband and I
have been following
your plan, and we’re
debt-free. Recently he
invited his sister, her
husband and their two
kids to live with us. His
brother-in-law recently
lost his job, and he did
Dave
this without talking to
me first. I agreed after
the fact, but do you
think we need a roommate agreement or
some kind of understanding
while they stay with us?
They have about $70,000 in
debt, and they haven’t been
very responsible with their
money. — Amanda
Dear Amanda,
I’ve got to tell you there’s
zero chance that my wife or I
would invite someone to live
in our home without the
other’s knowledge and
agreement. Pulling a stunt
like that is just plain wrong,
and you two need to get on
the same page long before
you try to move these people into your house.
Now, once you’ve
straightened things out
between the two of you, and
if you’re both in agreement,
you need to understand that
your purpose is to help
these folks get back on their
feet. Your home is not their
home, and this is not an
offer for them to stay as long
as they like.
You’re going to have to
ensure that they’re taking
debts, except for the house,
so I’m ready to tackle investing. I currently have $100,000
in a traditional IRA. Should I
convert this to a Roth IRA?
— Levi
Dear Levi,
You’ll have to pay taxes
on the amount you withdraw,
and that will amount to
roughly a fourth of what you
roll from a traditional IRA to
a Roth IRA. If you move
$100,000, it will cost you
about $25,000 in taxes.
If you have that kind of
money saved above your
emergency fund, and separate from retirement savings,
then yes, I’d convert to a
Roth IRA. Don’t cash out your
retirement or dip into your
emergency fund. And please,
please don’t run out and borrow money to make it happen!
the steps
necessary to
straighten
out their
lives. This
means working, and it
means they
start managing their
money by living on a
budget. Don’t
charge them
rent, because
the "rent" will
be that they
work and go over their
finances with you. Plus, you
put a limit on the time
they’re going to spend with
you. Regardless of what happens, they’re out and back
on their own by a certain,
specific date.
I wouldn’t suggest allowing $70,000 worth of time for
them to get back on their
feet. I’m thinking maybe four
to six months, but don’t let
this thing drag on with no
definitive end in sight. That
will only cause trouble and
hard feelings down the road.
You guys might be able to
pull this off-and keep the
relationships intact-if you set
fair and loving expectations
on the front end. — Dave
The three of them stood
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Dewey Decker, founder,
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In front of them sat an
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The traditional IRA is grow- the color of iced tea, with
ing on a tax-deferred basis,
some inexpensive acid
while the Roth IRA would
added to make it perfect for
grow tax-free. So, if you can
growing plants.
pay the taxes out of pocket, I
Dud Campbell had done
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RAMSEY
AN IRA CONVERSION?
Dear Dave,
I’m following your plan,
and I’ve just completed Baby
Step 3. I’ve got my emergency fund of three to six
months of expenses in place,
and I’ve paid off all my
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remained was to turn it on
and drive around on Bert’s
lawn as an experiment.
Emily, the designated note
taker, was going over things.
“Okay, Honey, I have this
pretty much figured out. Five
gallons of ‘cow pasture tea’
should cover 500 square feet
of lawn. Not counting labor,
there is 45 cents per gallon
of added ingredients, and
we’ll have to figure in about
two dollars a barrel for the
gunny sacks used for straining it.
“So if we add this, divide
by five, and carry the four,
this comes out to your cost
of 74 cents per 100 square
feet of lawn. Does it matter
what kind of grass is in the
lawn? No? Okay then, 74
cents. Then there are the
labor costs to be added to
that … shall we say five
bucks per average-sized
lawn? Because you have to
pay Windy something to
drive the lawn mower. That’s
right. I know you volun-
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teered, Windy, but your time
is valuable and Dewey may
need you on a non-helper
day.”
Windy devotes one day
each week to helping someone, for free, just because.
“Then of course, you have
to figure in riding mower
rental and welding charges
… I know they did it for
nothing, but you have to be
fair and be a businessman.
So you then add on research
costs, long-term debt service
… don’t interrupt … and it
comes out to just under $10
a lawn.
“If the yard is twice as big
as most yards, charge $20
for the ‘tea.’”
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looked at the smile on her
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THE FOLLOWING CLAY COUNTY PROPERTY
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The Personal Representative of the Clara Rye
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Property #1, being the Southwest Quarter of the Southwest
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53 West of the 5th P Clay County, South Dakota.
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